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Many an American band has had to travel overseas to gain
recognition before they’re appreciated on these
shores. For the U.K. group Dirty Vegas this happened in
reverse when the debut of their dance single “Days
Go By” went quickly from the soundtrack to a Mitsubishi
commercial (which also became parody material for one
of Dave Chappelle’s comedy show) , to radio and
the dancefloor, and on to hitting #7 on the Billboard
200
That was two years ago. After getting a Grammy for
the single, which was a complete shock to the group,
touring extensively and living the life of the proverbial
rock stars complete with she-she, who’s-who L.A.
parties, the three lads from Kent and the South London
suburbs wanted to get away from the rhetoric and back
to their roots, to just let the haze melt away.
Paul Harris, Steve Smith and
Ben Harris all came from the other
side of music, the classic set up of drums and guitars,
before going the way of the strobe lights and turntables.
That’s what they’ve returned to with their
second release, One, where
they seemed to have stripped down and redressed with
rich velvets, silks, jeans and sunglasses.
The noise of the city proved to be too much for the
men, causing months of writers block. So they headed
out to the green hills and deep ocean water of Scotland
where their minds could breathe and creativity could
flow. The result is not only an evolution for the band,
but welcome reprieve to the state of music today that
is run over by the 2004 edition of angry and hurt boy
bands.
It was a new beginning for them, and you can feel it,
like when love is new and electric or when you’re
driving your new car for the first few months. It’s
fresh and inviting, optimistic not only in the lyrics
but within each song’s heartbeat and skin.
Steve Smith, the lead singer and songwriter of the
group, spent some time discussing the escape from the
hype, those Hollywood parties, and the real focus on
their true calling.
Kaffeine Buzz: The new album is definitely
a departure from your last [self-titled] one, but I
loved the organics and the orchestration.
Steve Smith: Thank you! That was the desired affect.
I think to us it wasn’t that much of a change.
There was a lot of song based stuff on the old album…but
it just seemed the like the right place to go to take
the sound of our music.
KB: Well, when you look back at the whole genre
of dance music in the last 10 years, how it grew in
popularity and everyone seemed to jump on this bandwagon.
It seems like now, things are really going backwards,
but is going in a way you guys have where even DJs are
more and more becoming producers and not just spinning
records.
SS: Exactly. With our experience…it’s like,
we grew up as a band playing gigs and stuff. Then we
completely embraced the whole club scene when it exploded
back in England and Europe in the late ‘80s. People
want to keep it in two separate things: either you’re
a rock band or you’re a dance DJ. And for us it’s
like, ‘Why? You shouldn’t be like that.’
People are listening to more and more stuff now, and
their taste in music is much more varied than it has
ever been. If I go around to my friends’ house
and look at their CD collection, you’ve got Sasha’s
mix album there next to Franz Ferdinand or something,
you know? It’s like food tastes…
KB: You don’t want to keep eating at
the same restaurant all the time.
SS: And that’s the beauty about a multi-cultural
society. If you transpose that across in musical tastes…for
us, we’re into all different musical styles. So
we just fuse that together and see what comes out in
the end. And if we love it, then hopefully it will have
that affect on the listener. The thing about us is,
there’s a lot of care that goes into the production
side of the album. We’ve been DJs, we’ve
been in rock bands, done remixes, and producing our
own album…and hopefully a great song or a great
album comes out of that.
KB: Speaking of production, it seems like the
change in scenery really impacted not only your creative
abilities, but the surroundings seem to influence the
lyrics as well.
SS: We really wanted to leave the lyrics to be ambiguous
enough to listener so they could make their own interpretation.
There’s a track on there, “Giving You Everything,”
which could be about someone in a relationship. But
actually for us, it was a time for us where we were
dissatisfied with the music scene. We wasn’t getting
a break back in England. Wed done everything and given
them everything and it just wasn’t working.
We were touring America and got invited to great parties.
Everybody was going to be there and it was supposed
to be this big thing…and I swear, we were there
for like, 40 minutes. The room was so cold with everyone
trying so hard to network and be important, that we
just left. We jumped back on the tour bus with some
beers, got the guitars out…you could just taste
the desperation in the room.
KB: Well, that is the way Los Angeles can be…
SS: That’s the thing. We just wanted to write
a song about…you know when you haven’t seen
a friend in a really long time and you’re just
catching up over coffee, that’s what real love’s
about…that’s what’s real for us, what
we’re trying to get across.
KB: Also it’s about what’s really
important, to sit there and make an appearance when
the people may or may not even remember the next minute
or hear what you’re even saying. Or say, screw
it, let’s just have fun no matter where we are.
That story I read about you guys at the Grammys, where
you were in the bar when they called your name that
you’d won. The camera panned over to your chairs
and you weren’t there. I thought that was hilarious.
It sounds like something my friends and I would do,
“wadda mean we can’t take our drinks back
to the seat?”
SS: They had a funny kind of attitude towards that
kinda stuff back home, “Oh, they’re so blasé,
they didn’t even need to be in their chairs.”
It wasn’t like that at all. The thing for us was
like, “Are you kidding? We’re gatecrashing
the American Grammys. We’ve got absolutely no
chance of winning. So let’s just go. Let’s
have a great night where we get to see Aretha Franklin,
Simon & Garfunkle,” all these people that
we admire and look up to. So we were in the bar, and
then we won. It was ridiculous…never in a million
years would we have thought…just wanted to get
the record straight on that.
But we’re also not a band that measures our success
on that, it’s how many people come through the
door, ‘cause that’s who’s put you
in this situation. And that’s a big thing for
the band. I’m really not being ungrateful. I’m
immensely proud about the Grammy. But there’s
no better feeling than walking out on stage during that
first song with people clapping…
KB: Cheering, recognizing the music and singing
along…
SS: Exactly. People buying our records, writing stuff
on the website, and getting into songs…THAT’S
what really drives this band.
KB: Speaking of shows and performing, you guys
will have a full band for this tour?
SS: Yea, yea. The way we’ve done it before was,
“Well, we don’t really run everything off
the computer. We can all play. So why don’t we
just do that. Unfortunately…well, I play drums,
but I can’t drum and sing at the same time. So
we have a drummer this time around, which is great.
He’s an old friend of mine, a fantastic drummer
and he really understand the music and the sound we’re
trying to create.
KB: So you had some 40 songs? How did you go
about choosing which ones would go on the album?
SS: We’re a very democratic band. It was always
the same kinds of song that came up when we would say,
“Ah yes, this sounds great. This is definitely
on the album.” That’s kind of where the
name of the album came from, ‘cause it was like,
“oh that’s another one. That has to be one.”
We wrote a lot of stuff that was confessional, heart
on the sleeve type of stuff…I think it’s
just an instinct thing. There’s actually some
great songs that got left off, but we didn’t want
to put like 14 or 15 songs on there.
KB: It would be over kill?
SS: Yea. We still believe in the concept of LPs, where
there’s an A side and a B side, where the album
is a journey. I think the CD should be like that too,
not just going to track number 5.
KB: Where there’s a progression?
SS: Yea, where you start off with track one and finish
the experience with the last one.
KB: It sounds like that’s what you had
in mind when you put it together. There’s a really
smooth flow from one song to the other. When I read
about where you were in Scotland, I picked up on that
during “Walk In To The Sun.” It’s
the kind of song you would throw in when you’re
taking a long drive down the highway next to the ocean,
down PCH or something.
SS: It was exactly that. The production is paramount,
but I wanted to get the lyrics right. So I would go
for a long walk around the loch and just be completely
into the mind, “I’ve got the lyrics.”
It was a really, really enjoyable recording experience
to get away from London ‘cause there wasn’t
any sort of experience for us there.
KB: Well, you were talking about recognition
in your own country. That had to have changed by now,
hasn’t it?
SS: It hasn’t. It’s kind of a funny thing
back home…some of the press that gave us a hard
time back home have turned around now. What people don’t
like is that we wanted to make a success in America
before we did in the U.K. That’s just wasn’t
the case. It was the Mitsubishi commercial, so we had
to come over here first. It was as simple as that. But
the old school journalist would say, “If you love
America that much then go back.”
KB: That’s just silly. It’s so
competitive in the music industry and it’s so
messed up, that whenever you get any window of opportunity
you have to run with it. You just pull on that string
as long as you can. There’s a number of bands
here that have done the opposite and made it big over
in Europe and the U.K. first, touring over there because
they can hit so many countries in a shorter amount of
time. Whereas here, it’s a long stretch from one
city to another. You were talking about diversity in
music. I’ve thought that they tend to be into
more different types of music over there than they are
here. But that is changing.
SS: It’s changing back home as well. And like
you say, bands that come over like Scissor Sisters.
They’re huge in England and they’re just
starting to do well here. It’s strange, they weren’t
getting anything over here so they go to England and
BAM, they’re career takes off.
KB: Then they get press in Melody Maker and
NME and then on to MTV…
SS: NME. That’s the exact guys I was talking
about that give us a hard time.
KB: They’ve actually always reminded
me more of a gossip magazine than anything.
SS: It really, really is. NME gave Maroon 5 a hard
time and they’re huge in England.
KB: We were talking about the “Days Go
By” song, and aside from the Mitsubishi commercial,
the video itself was really intriguing, how it told
a story. What do you have planned for videos for the
newer songs?
SS: We just shot the video for the first single, “Walk
Into The Sun,” and the director Mark Webb really
picked up on the lyrics, it’s really great. We
were over at VH1 in New York last week and the guy there
said, “You’ve done it again. This video’s
great. You’ve got a story to it.” I think
as a band when we’re looking at video treatment,
at the moment for us it’s important that the video
reflects the lyrical element of the track. On “Days
Go By,” bingo. We got that one right the first
time. For “Walk Into The Sun” is going to
be another special video. Hopefully everyone will be
seeing it soon over here.
KB: Do you know when it’s coming out?
SS: November 13th.
KB: Well it’s been a real pleasure. I
really look forward to getting to see the show. I think
you guys are going to do great. And again, really love
the new CD.
SS: That’s really nice of you. I just think that
a band can never go wrong if they just follow their
hearts rather than, “Well, they’re successful
with that sound, why don’t we do some of that.”
If it works for us, then the rewards from that are fantastic.
Dirty Vegas will be playing on their own in Ft. Collins
at the Aggie on Saturday, and with Tears for Fears Monday,
November 15. It’s going to be a fantabulous combination,
especially with the return of Tears. Steve says the
boys haven’t skipped a beat and “it’s
great to see them on stage, really.” Having missed
them back in the days when Songs From The New Chair
or even “Mad World” was getting airplay,
this will be a truly memorable show.
www.dirtyvegas.com
-Kim Owens, November 12, 2004
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